E74 | Take Up Your Cross: The Cost of Discipleship Not Salvation | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:21–28 | Mark 8:31–9:1 | Luke 9:22–27
What did Jesus mean when He told His disciples to take up their cross— was this about discipleship of salvation? Can Someone Be A Disciple Without Being Saved? Why would the promised King speak openly about rejection, death, and loss? And how did the disciples misunderstand what kind of Messiah Jesus truly is?
Is Jesus talking about how to be saved—or something else entirely? What does it really cost to follow Him, and why does Jesus address these words not just to the Twelve, but to everyone listening? As we walk through Matthew, Mark, and Luke, this episode raises uncomfortable but essential questions about self-denial, loyalty, public faith, and eternal reward. What happens when comfort competes with calling, and why does Jesus frame discipleship as a daily decision with eternal significance?
Passage: Matthew 16:21–28 | Mark 8:31–9:1 | Luke 9:22–27
Series: Jesus Said That
Episode: #73
Title: Take Up Your Cross: The Cost of Discipleship Not Salvation
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- Dec 20, 2025E74 | Take Up Your Cross: The Cost of Discipleship Not Salvation | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:21–28 | Mark 8:31–9:1 | Luke 9:22–27
E74 | Take Up Your Cross: The Cost of Discipleship Not Salvation | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:21–28 | Mark 8:31–9:1 | Luke 9:22–27What did Jesus mean when He told His disciples to take up their cross— was this about discipleship of salvation? Can Someone Be A Disciple Without Being Saved? Why would the promised King speak openly about rejection, death, and loss? And how did the disciples misunderstand what kind of Messiah Jesus truly is?Is Jesus talking about how to be saved—or something else entirely? What does it really cost to follow Him, and why does Jesus address these words not just to the Twelve, but to everyone listening? As we walk through Matthew, Mark, and Luke, this episode raises uncomfortable but essential questions about self-denial, loyalty, public faith, and eternal reward. What happens when comfort competes with calling, and why does Jesus frame discipleship as a daily decision with eternal significance?
Passage: Matthew 16:21–28 | Mark 8:31–9:1 | Luke 9:22–27
Series: Jesus Said That
Episode: #73
Title: Take Up Your Cross: The Cost of Discipleship Not Salvation - Dec 6, 2025Special 3 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Forgiveness vs Reconciliation | Value of Women in Bible
Special 3 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Forgiveness vs Reconciliation | Value of Women in BibleIn episode three the pastors explore whether forgiveness always means reconnecting with someone who keeps hurting you, and what the Bible really teaches about boundaries and reconciliation. Then they tackle a question from a curious young listener about whether Hell has different “levels,” and how that relates to different religions around the world. Next, they address an honest concern: Why does the Bible seem to value men more than women, and does Scripture actually teach that? Finally, they dig into a fascinating mystery from Genesis—why Adam and Eve didn’t seem surprised by a talking serpent.Pastor Ken has asked what his favorite bands are the musicians while Pastor Kenny is asked to explain the writing process behind lyrics. These questions are honest, challenging, and real… and this episode brings clarity, depth, and encouragement as we walk through each one together.
- Nov 15, 2025E73 | Who’s the Rock? What Are the Keys? And How Do I See Jesus Clearly? | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:13–20 | Mark 8:22–30 | Luke 9:18–21
E73 | Who’s the Rock? What Are the Keys? And How Do I See Jesus Clearly? | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:13–20 | Mark 8:22–30 | Luke 9:18–21Have you ever had a moment when something finally made sense after being confusing for a long time? In this episode, we look at two moments in the Gospels: a blind man who can only see a little at first, and Peter, who suddenly realizes who Jesus really is. What does this tell us about how God helps us grow step by step? And how does Jesus bring us from confusion to clarity?
Then we travel with Jesus to Caesarea Philippi, a place filled with idols and the so-called “gates of Hades,” where He asks His disciples, “Who do you say that I am?” Who is the Rock Jesus talks about? What are the keys of the Kingdom? And how can we learn to see Jesus clearly in our everyday lives? Join us as we explore these questions and discover how they shape our faith today.
Passage: Matthew 16:13–20 | Mark 8:22–30 | Luke 9:18–21
Series: Jesus Said That
Episode: #73
Title: Who’s the Rock? What Are the Keys? And How Do I See Jesus Clearly? - Nov 1, 2025Special 2 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Election & Being Chosen | Marriage | Ministry Calling
Special 2 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Election & Being Chosen | Marriage | Ministry CallingIn this episode, the pastors look into two powerful Bible questions—what does it really mean to be elect or chosen, and why does Isaiah speak of a people “blind and deaf” yet called to testify for God? Blending Scripture, humor, and heartfelt conversation, this father-and-son team brings deep theology down to earth in a way that’s both personal and thought-provoking.
In each episode, both pastors also surprise each other with unplanned questions—this time, Pastor Ken asks his son how he knew he was called into ministry, and Pastor Kenny invites his father to share marriage advice after 42 years of faithfulness. It’s a mix of rich biblical teaching, family warmth, and genuine pastoral wisdom. If you love Bible Q&A, Christian podcasts, and faith-filled conversations that make Scripture come alive, grab your coffee and join the discussion. - Oct 18, 2025E72 | From Weather Reports to Forgotten Bread: No One Understands Jesus | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:1–12 | Mark 8:11–21
E72 | From Weather Reports to Forgotten Bread: No One Understands Jesus | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 16:1–12 | Mark 8:11–21Have you ever missed what Jesus was trying to show you because you were too focused on your problems? In this episode of The Father and Son Pastor Podcast, Jesus warns, “Beware the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Why were religious leaders demanding another sign when they’d already seen miracles?What does “yeast” represent in our modern world—and how does false teaching quietly spread through the Church today? Why were the disciples still worrying about bread when the Bread of Life was sitting in the boat with them? And most importantly… are we doing the same thing?
Join Pastors Kenny and Kenny Jr. as they look at every verse, explain the history, and challenge today’s believers to stay alert, remember God’s provision, and keep their eyes on Christ—not the chaos.
Passage: Matthew 16:1–12 | Mark 8:11–21
Series: Jesus Said That
Episode: #72
Title: From Weather Reports to Forgotten Bread: No One Understands Jesus - Oct 4, 2025Special 1 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Heaven VS The Kingdom & New Earth | Prayer & The Devil | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast
Special 1 | Answering Your Questions Over Coffee | Heaven VS The Kingdom & New Earth | Prayer & The Devil | Father & Son Pastoral PodcastFrom the creators of the Father & Son Pastoral Podcast, Pastors Ken Burge Sr. and Kenny Burge Jr. return with a brand-new series — Your Questions Answered Over Coffee. In this first episode, the father-and-son duo sit down with their mugs and Bibles to tackle two listener-submitted Bible questions about Heaven, eternity, and prayer. Each episode is a candid, Scripture-centered conversation filled with warmth, humor, and pastoral depth, inviting you to think deeply about your faith and walk with Christ.Both pastors also ask each other unplanned questions—this time discussing what’s discouraging in the local church today and how to train youth in preparation for the Millennial Kingdom. If you enjoy Bible Q&A, Christian podcasts, and down-to-earth discussions about real ministry and life, grab your coffee and join the conversation.- - - Chapters - - -0:00 - Introduction: Welcome. To The New Podcast2:41 - Question #1: Why Do People Think That Heaven Is Our Final Destination?21:53 - Question #2: Can The Devil Hear Our Prayers & Use Them Against Us?33:24 - Pastor Kenny's Question: "What Is Your Biggest Discouragement In The Local Church"36:53 - Pastor Ken's Question: "How Do You Shepherd In Light Of The Kingdom"
- Sep 27, 2025E71 | Burned Out But Cared For: Jesus Feeds the 4,000 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:32-39 & Mark 8:1-10
E71 | Burned Out But Cared For: Jesus Feeds the 4,000 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:32-39 & Mark 8:1-10Do you ever feel faithful but completely worn out—like you’re following Jesus but running on empty? Christians today can also grow weary from service and feel discouraged by tragic events in the world—such as the recent death of Charlie Kirk, which reminds us how fragile life is and how deeply broken the world remains. You’re not the first to feel this way......After three days of teaching and healing in a desolate place, the crowd that followed Jesus was exhausted and hungry. The disciples, already weary themselves, doubted there was any way to feed thousands in the wilderness. Yet Jesus looked on the crowd with deep compassion, took seven loaves and a few fish, and provided more than enough—so much that there were seven baskets of leftovers.In episode #71 the pastors will uncover what the feeding of the 4000 reveals about God’s heart for the weary, why the setting in Gentile territory matters, and how Jesus’ abundance goes far beyond human provision. Most of all, we’ll see that in our moments of fatigue and scarcity, Jesus is the One who notices, cares, and provides more than we could imagine.
- Sep 6, 2025E70 | Spit, Signs, and Perfect Healing: Jesus’ Heart for The Hurting | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:29–31 | Mark 7:31–37
E70 | Spit, Signs, and Perfect Healing: Jesus’ Heart for The Hurting | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:29–31 | Mark 7:31–37
Why in Matthew does Jesus heal in front of huge crowds, but in Mark's account He often does it in private? And why does He use spit to heal a man? Was there a cultural or historical reason, and what does it reveal about His compassion?
In episode #70 of Jesus Said That, “Spit, Signs, and Perfect Healing: Jesus’ Heart for The Hurting,” we will look into Matthew 15:29–31 and Mark 7:31–37 to uncover these questions. You’ll see why Jesus met people differently, how history explains His unusual methods, and what it all teaches us about His heart for the hurting. - Aug 23, 2025E69 | Seeking Crumbs of Grace: The Woman Who Had Nothing But Faith | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:21–28 | Mark 7:24–30
E69 | Seeking Crumbs of Grace: The Woman Who Had Nothing But Faith | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:21–28 | Mark 7:24–30
She had no status, no connections, and every reason to be ignored—yet she refused to give up. In a world that seemed closed to her, she pressed forward with bold determination, reaching out in desperation and faith. What follows is one of the most unexpected and powerful encounters recorded in the Gospels, a story that continues to challenge and inspire us today.
In episode #69 of Jesus Said That, “Seeking Crumbs of Grace: The Woman Who Had Nothing but Faith,” we uncover how this outsider’s persistence reveals God’s heart for all people—Jew or Gentile, high or low, near or far. Her story challenges us to approach God with humility, press through barriers with faith, and trust that His mercy overflows to anyone who seeks Him. If you’ve ever felt unworthy, overlooked, or on the outside looking in, this message will encourage you: Jesus’ grace is more than enough, even in the crumbs. - Aug 9, 2025E68 | Clean Hands, Dirty Hearts: Jesus Puts Truth Over Tradition | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:1–20 | Mark 7:1–23 | John 7:1
E68 | Clean Hands, Dirty Hearts: Jesus Puts Truth Over Tradition | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 15:1–20 | Mark 7:1–23 | John 7:1The Religious powerbrokers came all the way from Jerusalem on a mission to confront Jesus. Their charge? His disciples broke their religious rules — it was not about God - it was about control. In this fiery showdown from Matthew 15, Mark 7, and John 7, Jesus flips their accusation on its head, exposing that the real defilement isn’t from breaking tradition, but sin in the heart. What follows is a clash between human tradition and God’s truth that still echoes in our lives today.
In episode #68 of Jesus Said That, “Clean Hands, Dirty Hearts: Jesus Puts Truth Over Tradition,” the pastor look into this tense encounter and uncover how Jesus dismantled legalism with piercing truth. They will also see how wrong traditions such as Lordship Salvation and Calvinism have impacted the modern day church. You’ll see how the same traps of empty religion still snare people now—and how Christ’s call to authentic faith and transformed hearts offers real freedom. Whether you’ve felt crushed by expectations, frustrated by hypocrisy, or hungry for something real, this message will challenge, convict, and encourage you to cling to God’s Word over man-made rules. - Jul 19, 2025E67 | Not Calvinism or Cannibalism: Clarifying Jesus’ Claims from John 6 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | John 6:22–71
E67 | Not Calvinism or Cannibalism: Clarifying Jesus’ Claims from John 6 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | John 6:22–71What did Jesus really mean when He said we must eat His flesh and drink His blood? And does John 6 teach that only a select few are “drawn” to Him by divine force, as Calvinism claims?
In this episode of the Father & Son Pastoral Podcast, the pastors dig into one of the most controversial and misinterpreted chapters in the Gospels. With clear logic, and biblical context, they break down Jesus’ Bread of Life discourse to show it’s not about determinism or digestion—but about faith. If you’ve ever wrestled with John 6, you won’t want to miss this. Jesus’ words are spirit and life—let’s discover what He really meant. - Jul 5, 2025E66 | Touching Jesus by Faith: Then and Now | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:34–36 | Mark 6:53–56
E66 | Touching Jesus by Faith: Then and Now | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:34–36 | Mark 6:53–56In Episode #66, the pastors wrestle with what it truly means to touch Jesus by faith—both in the past and today. This powerful event from 2,000 years ago still speaks into our lives, reminding us that Jesus’ compassion and power have not changed. If you're facing fear, pain, or uncertainty, take heart—the same Savior who walked through Galilee is still near. Discover what real faith looks like in a world hungry for help, and be challenged to follow Jesus not just for what He gives, but for who He is.
- Jun 21, 2025E65 | Jesus Walks on the Water And Teleports | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:22–33 | Mark 6:45–52 | John 6:14–21
E65 | Jesus Walks on the Water And Teleports | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:22–33 | Mark 6:45–52 | John 6:14–21In Episode 65, Jesus will unveil His power over space, time, and matter as he walks on water and teleports. The pastors explore the question of why the disciples, who had witnessed Jesus’ feeding of thousands just hours earlier, doubted His power. What can their journey teach us about cultivating faith over fear? Join us for a thoughtful exploration of scripture and its timeless call to steadfast belief.
- Jun 7, 2025E64 | How Do You Respond to Personal Tragedy – Jesus Feeds the 5000 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:13-21 | Mark 6:30-44 | Luke 9:10-17 | John 6:1-13
E64 | How Do You Respond to Personal Tragedy – Jesus Feeds the 5000 | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:13-21 | Mark 6:30-44 | Luke 9:10-17 | John 6:1-13How did Jesus respond to personal tragedy—and what does that mean for us? After hearing of John the Baptist’s death and seeking rest with His disciples, Jesus was met by a massive, needy crowd. Though grieving and tired, He didn’t turn them away. Instead, He showed compassion—and performed one of His greatest miracles.
In this episode, we explore how Jesus responded to sorrow and how His example challenges us to trust God, serve others, and find hope even in our hardest moments. When tragedy hits and our plans are interrupted, will we pull away—or submit to the Father like Jesus?
- May 24, 2025E63 | The Death of John the Baptist: Are You Prepared For Death? | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:3–12 | Mark 6:17–29
E63 | The Death of John the Baptist: Are You Prepared For Death? | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:3–12 | Mark 6:17–29
Are you truly prepared to confront death and the afterlife? In this episode the pastors look into the account of John the Baptist's death, uncovering truths behind John’s unwavering stand for righteousness, the dangers of compromised leadership, and what his martyrdom means for us today.
Don’t miss this thought-provoking episode that challenges you to reflect on your own faith, courage, and eternal perspective. - May 5, 2025E62 | Sent Out Again Among Wolves: The Apostle’s Second Commission | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:1-2 | Mark 6:6-16 | Luke 9:1-9
E62 | Sent Out Again Among Wolves: The Apostle’s Second Commission | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 14:1-2 | Mark 6:6-16 | Luke 9:1-9
Episode 62 takes us into a tense and pivotal moment in Scripture—John the Baptist has just been executed, and Herod is haunted by guilt. Against this dramatic backdrop, the pastors explore the second commissioning of Jesus’ apostles and what it means for us today.
As believers navigating the pressures of everyday life, we’re reminded that following Christ isn’t about comfort—it’s about kingdom living. Jesus sends His disciples out with nothing but faith, just as we’re called to trust Him boldly in a world filled with fear, distraction, and rejection.This conversation brings together biblical insight, historical context, and practical challenges for Christians who want to live and speak the Gospel with courage—especially when it’s difficult.Passage: Matthew 14:1-2 | Mark 6:6-16 | Luke 9:1-9
Series: Jesus Said That
Episode: #62
Title: Sent Out Again Among Wolves: The Apostle’s Second Commission - Apr 18, 2025E61 | Rejected by Family & Friends: Jesus’ Final Visit to Nazareth | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 13:54–58 | Mark 6:1–6
E61 | Rejected by Family & Friends: Jesus’ Final Visit to Nazareth | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 13:54–58 | Mark 6:1–6Have you ever been undervalued and disrespected by those who know you best, simply because of familiarity? In this episode, we explore Jesus’ final visit to Nazareth, where He faced rejection from His own hometown. Despite His wisdom and miraculous works, the people could only see Him as “the carpenter’s son.”Join the pastors we look into Matthew 13:54–58 and Mark 6:1–6 to uncover how Jesus responded to being undervalued and disrespected, and learn timeless truths about overcoming rejection with grace and staying faithful to God’s calling.
- Apr 5, 2025E60 | The Messiah’s Calling Card: The Blind See & The Mute Speak | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:27-34
E60 | The Messiah’s Calling Card: The Blind See & The Mute Speak | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:27-34
Have you ever felt invisible to those in power—or even to God? Well, this episode should fill you with hope... from bold cries for mercy to the religious elite's slander, this historical moment in Capernaum reveals the compassionate authority of Jesus, who sees the unseen and heals the unheard. Discover how these events echo Isaiah’s promises and confirm Jesus as the long-awaited King.
This episode is entitled: "The Messiah’s Calling Card – The Blind See & The Mute Speak" which is taken from Matthew 9:27-34 - Mar 22, 2025E59 | God’s Timing Is Never Late: Jairus and the Woman Who Touched Jesus | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:18-26 | Mark 5:22-43 | Luke 8:40-56
E59 | God’s Timing Is Never Late: Jairus and the Woman Who Touched Jesus | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:18-26 | Mark 5:22-43 | Luke 8:40-56Have you ever faced a moment when everything seemed to go wrong? Interruptions, delays, and unanswered prayers test your patience and faith. Why does God seem to wait until the last moment—or even beyond?What do a desperate father and a broken woman teach us about divine timing and faith under pressure? Are delays really setbacks—or are they setups for something greater? Stay with us as we uncover how God's perfect timing brings hope and healing in the midst of chaos.This episode is entitled: "God’s Timing Is Never Late: Jairus and the Woman Who Touched Jesus" which is taken from Matthew 9:18-26; Mark 5:22-43; Luke 8:40-56
- Mar 8, 2025E58 | Dinner at Matthew’s, Fasting, Wineskins, and Jairus’ Plea | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:10-19 | Mark 2:15-17; 5:21-24 | Luke 5:29-39; 8:42
E58 | Dinner at Matthew’s, Fasting, Wineskins, and Jairus’ Plea | Father & Son Pastoral Podcast | Matthew 9:10-19 | Mark 2:15-17; 5:21-24 | Luke 5:29-39; 8:42In this episode, the pastors tackle a puzzling biblical question: How can Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell the same story of Jairus and Jesus so differently? How can these passages be harmonized to answer this apparent contradiction?
And what about the parable of the wineskins? Is it really about old versus new covenants, or is there a simpler meaning hidden in plain sight? Why does Jesus compare Himself to a bridegroom, and what does fasting have to do with joy, loss, and our spiritual journey today? Also what would Jesus say about Lent? Join the pastors as they wrestle with the text.
This episode is entitled: "Dinner at Matthew’s, Fasting, Wineskins, and Jairus’ Plea" which is taken from Matthew 9:10-19, Mark 2:15-17; 5:21-24, and Luke 5:29-39; 8:40-42
